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Would like to get input from true Bible-believing, Calvinist Christians on this sermon in development. The false Christians may also learn from it. On the importance of proper wife spanking. The Bible teaches us that the Lord punishes even those from amongst the Elect, when we deserve it! Much like a parent will lovingly discipline a transgressing child, so does Jesus punish our transgressions. The scripture tells us of the different types of punishments for satanists anyone who is not a true Christian; see Matthew , and true Christians.

The servants of the perdition are punished with a multitude of utter horrors—the plagues of Egypt, wild animals tearing disrespectful children to pieces 2 Kings , etc. Jesus even destroyed whole nations with hemorrhoids 1 Samuel for not obeying Him! As Saints, we are fortunate that, in our transgressions, we are corrected and not punished mortally. A good example of such is the demon that was torturing Paul as a reminder of all the sins he has committed: And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

Praise and Glory! So what does all this have to do with maintaining discipline in a Christian household? If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? As Christians, we know that there are ways in which we are to strive to be like Jesus, and then there are those in which we are not.

The above is a clear exemplary endorsement of our duties to our children initially given to us in Proverbs. Scriptures instruct men to treat their wifes as Jesus treats us, as His children: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. This is what we are to follow. And, yet again, this is how we are to deal with certain transgressions by the weaker gender: Hebrews For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

One flesh applies to the marriage relationship, and in the marriage relationship when Ephesians 5, the husband is to treat his wife as he would treat his OWN body Ephesians , 1 Cor Spanking is a form of discipline, discipline is for correction. Nowhere in the NT does it permit a husband to physically discipline his wife for correction or at all.

The physical correction is taught toward children because children are immature and reasoning can not always be used because a child's senses are not developed enough to understand the logic behind a parents instructions. Furthermore, Hebrews 12 has nothing to do with 1 Corinthians I perceive that since most Calvinists who reject dispensationalism see very little difference between OT law and NT , that such a view is what permits you to view any actions of the OT as applicable to NT living.

Yet not even the OT subscribes to this kind of treatment of a wife by her husband. That's the kind of stuff that people will actually think we believe and latch onto it and condemn us for, even though your the only knucklehead supporting it! You're the one on here condoning "spanking" your wife! You have no history on this site and this is the kind of crazy stuff you start out with!

I've never heard of any church that condones "spanking" your wife! She's not your dog! You come up with this on your own? Or who did you learn this crazy teaching from? The so called sermon is taking verses out of context, wrongly applying them, and twisting their meaning and application. It is not Biblical. A man who would lay a hand on his wife for any purpose in order to cause her harm is a coward and egotist Now, I ain't no prophet -- but I suspect that at this rate you'll not be here a month!!

Got it? I give him less than 1 week. You see my picture to the left! That was me telling a wife beater to take one more step towards her. Is this someone who signs up using different names after they've been kicked off before? I've seen it with different catholic posters.

But what would you call these beliefs? Is there a following for this? Other than in cults? There definitely enough posts on this thread to show where the bulk leaning of OB stands on this. To say it is illegal between man and wife is to also say it is illegal in the bedroom when I was growing up we heathen had a name for it kinky, not cool. The relationship between Christ and the church is spoken of in two ways -- Father and child, Husband and wife. If another mod or BroMatt choses to delete or lock the thread - oh, well.

You spank your dogs? If so, you got some issues that may be almost as serious as rejection of the Bible! And what's with puting word "spanking" in quotation marks? Do you spank your children when correction is needed, or do you "spank" them?

So what's the problem with the proposition that a husband, being the head of the wife, is to treat her in a Jesus-like manner? Which would include correction when needed? After all, sisters of Eve are not equal to the man.

The Bible tells us clearly that they are the gate through which satan's deception entered the world. Remember, Adam was not deceived! Maybe he's just trying to justify his bedroom activities? The clear reason for the OP originators joining as well as the posts they choose to make. You joined this forum exhibiting a confrontational manner towards people you don't know in the least.

You claim to know the Bible better than others, and while all Bible understanding requires interpretation, you say otherwise, and those who have questions or disagreements with some of your postings you denounce. That's not discussion, that's debate tactics with "in it to win it" attitude, not discussion with the intent to come to the truth.

Wrong again! Bible needs to be interpreted Biblically, and a discussion can be had only with those with whom you're in complete agreement on the basics. As such a true Christian such as myself is only interested in discussion with other true Christians. You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

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Recommended Posts. Report post. Posted August 3, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites. My cousin's first husband beat on her a time or two. I pray you're not married but I bet your divorced! Posted August 3, edited. The sermon is about corrective spanking, not beating, degenerate! Edited August 3, by DaveW. Having fallen to an inferior or undesirable state, especially in mental or moral qualities. A depraved, corrupt, or vicious person.

A person lacking or having progressively lost normative biological or psychological characteristics. Not legal either.

I agree with Lefton, this thread should be deleted by a mod.

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